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Wazronk , 16 May UTC. GIF The quotation in the Ub does not say anything about a "total" eclipse. The material now contained in Wikipedia regarding an error in the Ubook is mis-leading at best. I've added a link to a chalkboard to display proposed revisions to the article so people can see the proposed revision and comment on it. I think the dots under "Comparison to Christianity" are hard on the eyes, and would propose a wikitable instead. I am constructing one to show what I mean, and comments would be welcome here.
Richiar , 16 May UTC. What seems to be more standard I've been told is a sandbox for TUB. So, that has been activated. The idea is to be able to place and arrange content so the article can be trimmed and developed without disturbing the entire ecosystem, if you know what I mean. More on that below. I'm not sure where to put the sandbox link for TUB.
Richiar , 20 May UTC. The link for the Urantia readers international was removed recently. It seemed like an appropriate link to me, and seemed to contribute to this article. There was no explanaton of why it was removed, and if there are no comments to the contrary, I'll put it back in shortly. From WP:LINKS , "Adding external links can be a service to our readers, but they should be kept to a minimum of those that are meritable, accessible and appropriate to the article.
Under "Links to normally be avoided", see numbers 1, 3, and 13 in particular.
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The link to Urantia Readers-International seems to be important to one individual but it isn't clear why it is a meritable organization or unique resource of information regarding the article's topic. As I wrote in the "Removal of link" comment above, I understand the notability of three other organizations from third-party published sources. The pattern of edits on this even is suggestive that it is for advertising purposes, which is a no-no.
Wazronk , 26 May UTC. I've done a little rewriting of the Intro, Overview, and Teachings, for anyone to look at and comment on. This article treats the book as if it isn't two thousand pages of bullhockey. Wikipedia can be so funny sometimes. All organized religions and groups that exclude others are cults. There's a long list of references. The suggestion has been made by Majeston that the article "Urantia Book" be renamed "Urantia" because there is a Urantia movement.
I am trying to visualize this in an encyclopedic manner and see how to relate those two. Maybe if there was more elaboration on those thoughts, I could get a better idea of what is meant. In the meantime, I'm interested in looking at getting some of the sections we currently have into a more encyclopedic and readable prose. Richiar , 2 June UTC. Looking at the sections "The Nature of God" and "God and the Individual", it seems like they could benefit from a simpler rewording, and make the sections more readable. I'm not going to proceed with that however, unless I hear there are no objections.
Richiar , 3 June UTC. We can talk about it though. I see your ideas from the sandbox setup you've worked on. To me to start with where I have most disagreement some parts of the article in particular I know to have been polished and enriched over a long time by contributions of many people to reach the current state.
I'm less supportive of overhauls of these sections in the absence of people being squeaky wheels about there being such significant shortcomings to merit it. For example, the "God and the individual" section -- many people have collaborated on this part, argued over its language, and refined it over a long time, a touchy subject for POV and other reasons, and I see how it has matured into a stable, balanced, well-sourced section now as a result of the collaborations.
It hasn't provoked POV or content disputes for quite a while. Simplification is one characteristic to consider to make language more effective but also simplification is in the eye of the beholder. Though intentioned for improvement I don't agree it should be done just for its own sake by one or two people as this is from subjective opinions ultimately and overrides the natural development and growth these sections have seen by many editors. It would be a loss not a gain in my view comparing current article version to minimalistic, 4th-grade-reading-level version in the sandbox.
On the "Nature of God" section, this is a more recent development that branched off from "God and the individual". I'm the one who did that. The first paragraph and some other parts were taken from "God and the individual". I added material, and probably a third of it has been cut since then. I did some of the cutting myself and others have also. I personally think it's currently a pretty decent, lean summary of the main macro-level points on the topic "Nature of God" considering there are hundreds of pages on the topic in TUB. If I thought otherwise I would have already edited it directly to improve.
But this is a section I know has had less richness of editor collaboration and so I recognize that more input and discussion probably could help it be better. I see you've added a lengthy comment to my talk page, I'll add some more points there. Wazronk , 17 June UTC. I'm going to try to present some thoughts about what I mean when I say "simplifying the article". I think it is a bit difficult to try to sift through whats in the UB and convert it to a good article type of state, so I'm going to put some of my thoughts down, and I may need to revise my comments as I proceed, as discussion develops.
In terms of style, I would like to see a more simple use of language, that is informational and smoothly readable, with ideas that are easy to comprehend by the general reader, that has no background in the UB. What it seems that we have in some sections is a promotional and subtle pov style. I think some things could be said more directly, with less superfluous additional material, or exposition.
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There may be a simpler, less complex way to present the complex ideas in the UB. There are a number of areas I think might be improved in terms of the above ideas, but its probably best to just look at a section at a time, and go from top to bottom, a little at a time. Philosophy is a complex field and there is no light shed on it from the UB except to combine science philosophy and religion as part of the cosmic intuitive mind in human experience.
If the sentence is placed in the Revelation side article, the Revelation article is improved, the readability of the intro is improved, and the content of the purpose of the revelation is still retained. The Urantia Book is a book that discusses God , science , religion , history , and destiny. The book originated in Chicago, Illinois, U. See Mysterious origin.
Among many other topics, it expands on the origin and meaning of life , describes humankind's place in the universe , discusses the relationship between God and people, and presents a detailed biography of Jesus. The book is 2, pages long, and consists of a Foreword and papers, divided into four parts. Preceeding sentence removed below. The Urantia Book introduces the word Urantia as the name of the planet Earth. Colloquially , the word "Urantian" is sometimes used to denote an individual who admires and believes in the book, but this meaning is not found in the book itself.
Translations into numerous languages are available with several new translations in process. In , Urantia Foundation lost the U. End of modified draft. Richiar , 23 June UTC. With a little more modification, and removal of a couple more sentences that seem unnecessary, we arrive at this version:. The Urantia Book is a book that portrays itself as having been written by spiritual beings as a revelation to man from God.
See mysterious origin. The Urantia Book introduces the word "Urantia" as the name of the planet Earth. Its topics of discussion include God, science, religion, history, and destiny, and it expands on the origin and meaning of life. End of modified draft 2. The Urantia Book is a book whose authors are portrayed as spiritual beings, and is said to have been composed by them for the purpose of communicating a revelation to our planet about God. The book discusses a variety of topics about God, science, religion, history, and destiny.
The Urantia Book does not present a formal religion, but discusses the fundamental nature of religion itself, and how the combination of religion with other areas of human experience, can act to improve life. The word Urantia is introduced by the book as the name given to refer to the planet Earth. Complete, searchable editions of The Urantia Book are available on the Internet, as well as free audio versions. This is the version of the intro that I support for the article. I would retain the internal links where they already exist. Richiar , 26 June UTC.
I have added some apostrophe's to the term Thought Adjuster, to at least qualify that it is a term that is used commonly throughout the book; but the term is not in general use. In fact, its probably never before been used on the planet until the Urantia Book. So, to use it throughout the article is submitting the readers to the use of jargon and specialized language, that only readers of the Urantia Book would be familiar with.
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Its like the Scientology article using the term "Thetan" or "static" or "ARC" throughout the article, as if we all talk like that. Its way too presumptuous, and is not appropriate for a general encyclopedia article. Also, there is a side article on Thought Adjuster, which is appropriate, and thats where a lot of the material thats in the section on God and the Individual would appropriately go.
Much of the material on Thought Adjuster rightly could go to the side article. Richiar , 28 June UTC. I started a new article on universe reality , that has a link in the Nature of God section. I'll be working on it some. Also, I'm looking at starting a navigation template. I like the appearance of Physical Cosmology , and would recommend that format.
Richiar , 13 July UTC. The idea of maybe a Wikiproject here for the Urantia Book occured to me.
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Also, the taskforce idea, but there would need to be a more robust editing community for the taskforce to be viable. I have been advised that the following articles may be a violation of WP: OR: "universe realtiy", "Thought adjuster", "Glossary of terms", and "History and destiny of earth". I have placed below the discussion with another editor, likely to be an administrator. If this is the case, the only way any of the content in any of these article could be preserved is to include them in the main article.
This would greatly expand the article's length, so that would mean some serious editing would be required. Could you explain what the objection was that prompted the template for the universe reality article? If the issue of notability is your concern, then you would have to question the validity of the Urantia Book article. The universe reality article is a summary of what is said in the Urantia Book.
There are no third party sources of the Urantia Book on the matter of universe reality. The problem is the nature of the material in the book itself. The Urantia Book itself does clearly meet notability requirements. Due to the advisement that the articles above may be designated for deletion, and further advisement that the material may be appropriately included into the main article, I have added the universe reality article and revelation article to the main article, until we can get this matter further sorted out.
As I don't know whats in any of the 3rd sources, I'm not sure what would be appropriate. A Jesus article seems appropriate, but would possibly have similar constraints. I'm going to have to rethink what I try to do, as I don't want to put a lot of work into something that ultimately turns out to be Wiki improper. Is there some way to work out a compromise? My guess is in the last analysis, probably not. Richiar , 15 July UTC. I believe that Dr. Jeffery Wattles and some others have done work in this area.
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Wattles site is the ReligiousTolerance. Sprunger and others may also have addressed the philosophical issues. Majeston , 15 August UTC. As there was no discussion to the changes made to the article recently, it is not likely that these changes will be retained. However I'll put that issue aside, as it seems the recent changes were good faith edits inorder to improve the article. I want to call attention to the wording of the two versions, the previous one and the present one.
Of all current world religions, The Urantia Book's teachings are likely the most consistent with the teachings of Christianity. There are significant differences between The Urantia Book and commonly accepted Christian beliefs though. Many believers see it as extending Judeo-Christian religious concepts in the same way the New Testament may be considered an extension of Old Testament ideas. Part IV, more than one third of the content in The Urantia Book, is devoted to a narrative of his life and teachings.
There are many similarities between The Urantia Book and Christianity.